Terribly disappointed in Froglube

Shadow · #1 07-31-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IamCaleb

I never jumped on the frog train......too many steps to apply. I prefer RandCLP, works great. Joe's oldschool way is proven, cheap, and will be around for years. I use this technique on my rifles.

Good luck bro, hope it works out for you.....if not, there are plenty of other products out there.

What steps? warming it up? Just have to do that first couple of times. Thereafter cleaning is much easier since nothing sticks.

Caleb · #2 07-31-2014, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

What steps? warming it up? Just have to do that first couple of times. Thereafter cleaning is much easier since nothing sticks.

Yep...that. Two or three drops of RandCLP and I'm done. Clean up is easy as well, usually just a wioe down with the swabs.

Shadow · #3 07-31-2014, 01:14 PM

I just spoke to the folks at FrogLube. They explained if the gun is not prepped the first time to remove all trace of petroleum products it can become sticky/gummy. That is why they recommend degreasing with alcohol first. If it is clean down to the bare metal, correct application of FrogLube will NOT result in any stickiness. It makes sense that there could be a reaction to mixing both types of products.

To prove to myself there is no problem, I just took out of the safe my old S&W Mod-36. After having been used with solvents/oil for 30 years, it was prepped and cleaned with FrogLube almost two years ago. It has not been touched, lubed or fired in that time. Not a bit of stickiness whatsoever, nor on any of the other guns that have been "frogged" over the past two years.

Lastly, I pointed out a section on the website instructions that are somewhat vague about prepping for the first time. It will be brought to the attention of the powers that be and will be corrected. I will follow for these changes.

milkmanjoe · #4 07-31-2014, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

I just spoke to the folks at FrogLube. They explained if the gun is not prepped the first time to remove all trace of petroleum products it can become sticky/gummy. That is why they recommend degreasing with alcohol first. If it is clean down to the bare metal, correct application of FrogLube will NOT result in any stickiness. It makes sense that there could be a reaction to mixing both types of products.

To prove to myself there is no problem, I just took out of the safe my old S&W Mod-36. After having been used with solvents/oil for 30 years, it was prepped and cleaned with FrogLube almost two years ago. It has not been touched, lubed or fired in that time. Not a bit of stickiness whatsoever, nor on any of the other guns that have been "frogged" over the past two years.

Lastly, I pointed out a section on the website instructions that are somewhat vague about prepping for the first time. It will be brought to the attention of the powers that be and will be corrected. I will follow for these changes.

They still need to change the name or it ain't going on my guns.

Shadow · #5 07-31-2014, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by milkmanjoe

They still need to change the name or it ain't going on my guns.

Hey Joe....

milkmanjoe · #6 07-31-2014, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

Hey Joe....

MPDC · #7 07-31-2014, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

Hey Joe....

The "BRONX CHEER" !

Shark1007 · #8 07-31-2014, 11:14 PM

Shadow

There was a known issue with the first iteration of froglube growing mold looking stuff. They promised to replace the eight ounce containers and I threw the old ones away waiting for the new ones to arrive. I waited months and responded again, resending the original email. I waited months and no response and my last nudge was about a year from the first communication and still no response from a supervisor. Heck, I've used the stuff so long I'm on hair dryer number two.

On the mold growing with the first formula, it required me to alcohol clean/strip several dozen guns and it took an entire week while I waited for the new product. I even talked my police supply into carrying the lube.

I'm as anal as they come with froglube instructions and have bottles of isopropyl alcohol lined up in the gun room. Despite that, on certain pistols I default to the old lubes I still have. One of my gun range/shops has an occasional employee tell me they don't like the stuff on a 1911 but the owner insists.

I guess I just got pissed and embarrassed because I told the police chief the good folks at froglube were sending 14 packages we could distribute to the officers and I waited and waited seemingly forever. You feel like an ass when you see the chief and hurry by so the subject doesn't come to "what happened to that froglube you were getting us?" My last email was unmistakable to them for sure. I made it clear I'd like the stuff replaced they promised and no free stuff for the police department.

Forgive my venting, but indeed I seems they have made it big time with the help of strong supporters like myself (I know I've given at least 6 kits to friends) and suddenly they don't care enough to respond to three or four emails.