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Old 07-22-2015, 07:04 PM
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Bob,

I've always been lucky and my Dad (a Marine) had great taste in Rifles and left my brother and I some good ones.

I understand what you were trying to do and the fact is before you posted your thread I was going to post that Gunblast video about the rifle. you beat me to the draw lol.

it just seemed like y'all were saying you need all that stuff to make long range hits. while every advantage you can get is helpful I didn't think it was necessary.

for that style of rifle i'd say it's a winner!
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Old 07-22-2015, 07:56 PM
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You have to understand also that this type of rifle (precision LR) is built to shoot under a moa all day long. You can deffinatelly hit LR with a sub $500 but, will it do it after the barrel heats up shooting lots of rounds down range. ...is the question. My 700 5R with an HR Precision stock shot 3/4 minutes if I did my part throughout the 50 or 60 rounds shot without a long cool off period. Will a out of the box Savage Axis or Ruger American do that? Idk, I don't own those rifles but I would think not. Now, a model 10 heavy barrel might but, that's not a sub $500 rifle.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm still new to LR shooting.
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Old 07-22-2015, 08:16 PM
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yes a heavy barrel is better when shooting lots of rounds. it also adds more over all weight which means less movement and recoil which helps with accuracy. the Savage 10 and Remington 700 both come with heavy barrels for $823 or less.

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when I was talking about the model 10 and 700 those were the versions I was speaking about. I only mentioned the Savage Axis to show that you don't need to drop lots of cash for accuracy. there's always a better tool for the job and the heavy barreled rifles are much better for lots of long distance shooting.
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Therein lies the issue...Long Range Precision Rifles need bull barrels due to the amount of rounds fired. They need to shoot under 1 moa groups constantly. I can tell you over the years I have heard people brag about submoa guns that when push came to shove wasnt'.......They always show a one hole 3 shot group under an inch, the best group they ever shot. That is not a submoa gun.....When they show a target with 5 5 shot groups on one target under 1 moa, then they have a true submoa gun.......Not as many guns out there that will do it.
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Therein lies the issue...Long Range Precision Rifles need bull barrels due to the amount of rounds fired. They need to shoot under 1 moa groups constantly. I can tell you over the years I have heard people brag about submoa guns that when push came to shove wasnt'.......They always show a one hole 3 shot group under an inch, the best group they ever shot. That is not a submoa gun.....When they show a target with 5 5 shot groups on one target under 1 moa, then they have a true submoa gun.......Not as many guns out there that will do it.
Yup Bull barrel will also reduce harmonics. My Savage Tactical .308 shot cloverleafs at 100, pie plates at 800 all day. But I can't handle those adjustable space gun looking stocks. Just can't
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Cause you are old school like me......But I do have to tell you, you can custom fit them a lot easier than my McMillan stocks.........

But the otherside is a hand filling heavy stock just feels good to the touch.
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I too prefer wood and metal, never really liked the chassis stocks (looks wise). I have never tried one so, I'm open to it. This rifle is on my wish list for the future. Time to concentrate on ammo till after 2016.
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