Need some help/ideas in securing bamboo or sugar cane stocks for knife testing

[brownie]

The objective:

To use the new Covington Bowie that's being made and delivered in a few weeks to demonstrate it's capability of lopping a hand off at the wrist and then again lopping off a forearm about 3" from the wrist. This "test" will be videotaped and put up on my you tube channel here https://www.youtube.com/user/azqkr

Requirements:

As close a representation of the two forearm bones in some medium like bamboo/sugar cane [ thanks to /RcR for the suggestions ], wrapped in tenderloin of appropriate dimensions of a wrist/forearm, then all tightly wrapped in multiple layers of cellophane [ to represent skin ].

I'll be taking measurements from a medical training skeleton today to determine diameters of the two forearm bones used in med schools [ SAR commander happens to have one at his house ].

thought taking the tenderloin and having a butcher slice it open lengthwise, then using an approximate diameter piece to represent the wrist and forearm with the "bones" of bamboo or sugar cane placed into the slit would approximate the density of bone [ being porous ] would suffice.

Dilemma/help with dilemma from members

I wondered if anyone here could secure some sugar cane stalk from a place like this http://www.bamboosupply.net/bamboo_poles.htm about the same diameter of the two forearm boners and send it to me after I get the dimensions of the forearm bones off the skeleton..

If not sugar cane, perhaps someone has access to bamboo stalk in Fla that would be a fair representation in diameter also.

Taking suggestions on either, or perhaps using bone to replicate the two forearm bones might be viable as one SAR member suggested last night at the monthly meeting.

Ideas? Suggestions from the members on how to replicate the bones to demonstrate the cutting power that can be applied by a fighting bowie? Perhaps better ideas on the "meat" or wrapping?

Thanks in advance, I think the testing should shed some light on the force that can be applied with a light fighting bowie and it's ability to sever a wrist/forearm. The testing is in response to a member of another forum [ ex leo ] who is adamant that the bowie will NOT be capable of severing either the wrist or forearm 3" from the wrist. I believe he's wrong, and am willing to prove the point.

Cost of materials and shipping will be covered by me, so lets hear some ideas from members who'd like to see such a test of a bowie's ability to sever/cleave a wrist or forearm bone off. I'll be using what's known as a "snap cut" with the bowie that generates a lot more force than just swinging the blade.

[GD2A]

Seems like you're on the right track. I just read an article that used gy parts for similar testing.

[brownie]

Originally Posted by GD2A

Seems like you're on the right track. I just read an article that used gy parts for similar testing.

Yes, in the next few days I'm going to a farm, their skin also ours closely. Thanks

[milkmanjoe]

Just get in a bar fight.....oh wait, I got stabbed from that in 1977...scratch that.

I would use a ham, with skin on. Get bones from the local butcher and stuff the ham with them. You can trim meat away and re-wrap the skin once you get the diameter you want. unless it's my forearm you are after, then you will need to add meat.

[brownie]

Good suggestion Joe, thanks

[milkmanjoe]

Originally Posted by brownie

Good suggestion Joe, thanks

You are welcome....We used hams, though more for fun, to see bullet damage years ago. You can get deer legs for bones from any place that processes deer for hunters. Hell, you can buy an intact deer leg and attack it with the bowie. Probably pretty cheap, too.

[sdmc530]

this is an easy one...

here is what you do:

Take mongo to a bar, get him stinkin drunk....I mean toasted. Then at some point you start a fight with somebody but then have mongo do the fighting for you. He would tear him limb from limb and walla you will have your human arm to test on.

Mongo you in buddy?!

[brownie]

Okay, update for those with interest in this testing------------------

Talked with a medical school today. A professor expressed the following information would be "average" for a male where the radius and ulna diameters are concerned for this test.

3" from the wrist, the two bones are 5/8" and 1/2" in diameter. 1/2 way between the wrist and elbow, the dimensions are 1/2" for both.

Measuring my own arm, 3" from the wrist is 2 3/8" in diameter and midway from wrist to elbow is 3 1/4" diameter. These numbers give me a base for the dowel diameters and a base when I wrap the meat and shave it to the dimensions above, all tightly wrapped in 15-20 layers of cellophane.

I got another project that's come up and I'll be busy and away first week of Sept. for part of the time that's taking priority over this project/testing. I expect I should be ready to put this together and get the testing on video about the time the knife is here or arrives shortly before that from Panther and sheathing. So, we're looking at perhaps a month and the project is in the can.

Just an fyi for those waiting on the results.

[pitor]

Awesome. Can't wait to see the results.

[brownie]

Here's "El Hefe", the one that's being sheathed this next week and sent to me for testing. Click the pic, it expands to a bigger view