Glock Trigger

[milkmanjoe]

Originally Posted by brownie

I've never changed or altered the standard 5.5 trigger on any of my s. They'll drill one small ragged hole at 5 yrds if the shooter does his part. I shoot 4-5 rds a second with stock 5.5 triggers. Splits run .16-.18 normally with the occasional .15 or .19 split.

I see NO need to work on a factory trigger. I do see a need to shoot the snot of it and learn the trigger. I'm not sure I'd spend money on a "trigger job" to gain very little where splits or rds per second is concerned.

I've got over 120K rds through the g17 1st gen.

Keep in mind, the above after carrying [ professionally on the streets ] 1911's over 28 years full time, sometimes two. Hand me a 1911, I shoot it well, hand me a , I shoot it just as well.

It did take me 1K rds through the to reach the same level of proficiency with the g17, so the advice I give is, go shoot the snot of out it and marry the trigger finger to the as you have the 1911s.

Originally Posted by IamCaleb

What brownie said....

Now, if you really need to "fix" a trigger. .......just buy an M&P. Trigger fixed.

Originally Posted by pitor

But just to play devil's advocate, it could be argued that rather than spending hundreds of dollars in ammo throwing rounds downrange, one could also spend half of that money on a trigger job, which in no way replaces trigger time, and still make the weapon more accurate to one's ability.

And then we have the aging guy(ME) who spent his youth with half frozen wet hands milking cows/delivering milk in sub zero temperaures. This is the guy who depends on alterations so he can shoot thousands of rounds in a weekend. I can shoot thousands of rounds from a 1911, but I find the lighter weight Glock more punishing on my hands. So, Brownie's theory of practice till you get it cannot work for everyone. But once the alteration(s) are complete, yup, practice till you get it.

[brownie]

Originally Posted by pitor

But just to play devil's advocate, it could be argued that rather than spending hundreds of dollars in ammo throwing rounds downrange, one could also spend half of that money on a trigger job, which in no way replaces trigger time, and still make the weapon more accurate to one's ability.

An educated trigger finger needs not have a trigger job to shoot with the best of them. As an example, Miculek's race gun went down [ revo used d/a only ] one match early in his career with S+W, who was on scene and handed him a stock 45acp revo. He won the match at the end of the day against the best of the best.

He's still trying to break Ed McGivern's many records for speed and accuracy, he broken a few so far, Ed also shooting stock s+w revos back on the 30's and 40's.

The 1K rds to shoot the g17 as well as the 1911's I'd carried for 30+ years was learning the trigger and the variance in grip angle. Upwards of 300K rds through the 1911's over decades, 1K on the , I was shooting it with the same speed and accuracy.

If you don't shoot, you can't shoot. As you know, students hand me their firearms all the time and I shoot them equally as well as my own make/models. In my own case, the carrying and shooting a Sig da/sa while in blue for several years really increased the trigger finger education. In 3-4K rounds, I could shoot the 226 or 228 as well as the 1911's after decades. A lighter trigger may have saved me 1-2Krds down range, but the trigger finger wouldn't have been any more educated or made a difference in speed or accuracy.

So yes, one might save a few K of ammo with a trigger job, but the well educated trigger finger that can operated a 5.5# stock trigger or a Sig DA/SA 10/4 trigger system can be handed any firearm and see excellent results.

Half the reason many carry, shoot, and prefer a 1911? Many reasons but one important one is it's trigger weight. My 1911's sd guns are set at 4.5#'s, the is another pound on the pull weight over whats considered the best trigger of any firearm made.

[pitor]

Great post brownie. Thanks for taking the time to discuss this