Question about cocked and locked for long periods of time.

[pitor]

Originally Posted by sdmc530

thanks Padre, I did learn a lot in the last few days about the 1911 that I actually didn't know. I am a condition 1 person know. When in 1911 group therapy next Tuesday night I will make my pentance with them

I'm glad this discussion helped some a bit, I've definitely learned more than a thing or two discussing the subject. COTEP is a great place of like-minded individuals. I wish we all lived closer to each other for an annual BBQ, Ell and would be designated cooks!

[DaFadda]

One of the biggest fears about Condition One carry... or storage, or night stand... is the thought that "there is a round in the chamber and that gun has a hair trigger". I've had that and similar said to me for years. When a new to the 1911 shooter questions me on the subject, I suggest that he/she carry the 1911 for three or four weeks cocked, with an empty chamber. I even offer to buy them dinner if the hammer drops. No one has taken my offer of dinner yet, but they come to realize that the three safeties on the 1911 make it one of the safest pistols in existence. Manual, Grip and keep your darn finger off the trigger!

Now.... back to Naked Gun 33 1/3

[pitor]

I found this really good video that explains why the 1911 safeties are better than striker fired guns.

[GD2A]

1911's in Condition 1
Glock's in Condition 1

...

Both are/should be fine and go bang when (and only when) they're supposed to.

However, for a "nightstand gun" I think it's tough to beat the inherent safety and simplicity of a good ole .357 revolver. Just M2C.

[sdmc530]

Originally Posted by pitor

I found this really good video that explains why the 1911 safeties are better than striker fired guns.

another good watch

Originally Posted by GD2A

However, for a "nightstand gun" I think it's tough to beat the inherent safety and simplicity of a good ole .357 revolver. Just M2C.

but but that's not a 1911

[GD2A]

Originally Posted by sdmc530

but but that's not a 1911

Yes, yes ... I know but somewhere along the way I saw a post about nightstand vs carry guns, got distracted and then; BAM! !! 357's!!!

It happens to me often enough, just ask my wife

[Xbonz]

Walking around cocked and locked for extended periods of time causes things to turn blue..

[sdmc530]

Originally Posted by Xbonz

Walking around cocked and locked for extended periods of time causes things to turn blue..

ahhhhhh wait what?!

You been visiting Elliosn?

[sdmc530]

Originally Posted by gd2a

yes, yes ... I know but somewhere along the way i saw a post about nightstand vs carry guns, got distracted and then; bam! !! 357's!!!

It happens to me often enough, just ask my wife :d

***squirrel***

[Horse'nround]

So, I will open my mouth and get into trouble here.

Of 9 hand guns in our house 6 are loaded and 4 in condition 1 (SA's) the hammers are down on my wife's revolvers because that's her preference. My EDC is holstered in 1, the front and back door guns as well as my night stander(NS) are all 1911's. The NS has gone up to 3 months without being cycled, it's a Kimber Eclipse II pro (seriously reworked) mim-reduction... Okay .

Generally they get the once over monthly give or take a week or so, this includes unloading the mag in the garage range every 6 to 8 months. This practice has been in place for better than 2 decades with no gun issues noted.

I have had this very discussion with several armorers over the years, Army, Navy, Marines and a friend in NN Tactical. One statement from all concerning the 1911. A mil spec or equivalent grade 1911 with proper maintenance can spend its entire life in condition 1 with no ill effects in operation or performance.

The weak link is supposedly the mag spring. Back in 2012 I was doing an inspection / retrieval at an Army/ Navy storage facility. Several friends were in the process of de-milling some 45 acp ammo loaded in the early 60's packaged in mags... part of the de-mill process was to test fire a sample of ammo from each lot. Ammo packaged in mags in the 60's fired flawlessly and they went through hundreds of magazines. Truly disgusting sight.