COTEP.org  

Go Back   COTEP.org > Main Category > The Dremel Room > Help Me Fix My Gun

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-26-2014, 03:35 PM
Arley's Avatar
Arley Arley is offline
COTEP Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 499
Thanks: 87
Thanked 221 Times in 51 Posts
Unhappy Help with my AR

My AR15 is all over the paper . Shooting my reloads 55 grain FMJBT. Took it out to 100 yrds and could not get on paper . It was dead on till then . Took it 50 yrds . and at times would not get on paper . I shoot a3x9x50 scope with about 500 rounds with it on the rifle .
I don't get it ?? Scope broken ? It was a cheap Tasco but still .

Any insight welcome . I am currently tearing it down and going to free float it. I did not have any iron sights on it to check if something else was wrong ( other than the scope )

Please help .

Arley
__________________
ARLEY CBOBO759
RIA 1911 .45 - 2 FM 9s M90 & M95- DPMS AR 15 Lower with PSA Upper SS 16 " - Rossi " Gallery " Remi 34 - Cimarron " El Malo 357 SA & assorted others - Leather worker - "Sorcerer Leather Works - Knife maker "B.A.D. BLADES

Desperta Ferro
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-26-2014, 04:02 PM
jmlutz's Avatar
jmlutz jmlutz is offline
Founding Member
COTEP Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: De Leon,Texas
Posts: 4,337
Thanks: 1,494
Thanked 1,292 Times in 337 Posts
Default

Did you check for loose scope mounts? I'll bet the problem is entirely scope related.
__________________
Mike
CBOBO359
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-26-2014, 04:05 PM
BigAm's Avatar
BigAm BigAm is offline
COTEP Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SWMO
Posts: 68
Thanks: 0
Thanked 26 Times in 7 Posts
Default

I was gonna say it sounds like a scope or faulty rings issue.

If you have a friend with a scope with quick disconnect you should take your off roll his on and give it a shot and see whats up.

An AR should be be at least a 1" at 100 yard rifle.

If you want to spend a lil cash and get something great look into Nikon M223 scopes or there ProStaff Series or Vortex stuff. Rings make a big difference too. Just find some solid one piece rings or a good mount like the Nikon M-223 mouth or a Burris PEPR.

Good luck hope that helps!
__________________
COTEP# CBOB0669

DW Specialist 9mm, Para GI Expert, Springfield Range Officer 9mm, Sig P229R Dark Elite, Sig P320, STI Edge 9mm
Ruger Wiley Clapp GP100, Springfield XDs 4.0
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-26-2014, 05:01 PM
Gatorade's Avatar
Gatorade Gatorade is offline
COTEP Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,615
Thanks: 802
Thanked 643 Times in 156 Posts
Default

Also check with factory ammo till you get it nailed down. What changes have you made since you last had it shooting well? If nothing has changed then the reloads could be off. Check that scope mount as stated above and make everything tight. Maybe also time to get some irons and start at 50 yards to rule out all possible issues but the optic.

Good luck!
__________________
CBOB0746
NRA Life Member
Florida CWL Since 1992
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-26-2014, 05:51 PM
TLE2's Avatar
TLE2 TLE2 is offline
Founding Member
COTEP Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Near Okahoma City
Posts: 2,831
Blog Entries: 5
Thanks: 547
Thanked 379 Times in 83 Posts
Default

Laser your optics. If you believed or, knew, it to be zeroed at one point, I agree: loose sight.
__________________

COTEP #719


"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-26-2014, 07:41 PM
Caleb's Avatar
Caleb Caleb is offline
COTEP Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 11,463
Thanks: 4,192
Thanked 1,137 Times in 254 Posts
Default

First, change your optics. The Nikons are cheap enough but, better glass than Tasco. To illiminate the rifle, throw some irons and check with those.

It does sound like loose optics, though.
__________________
**I have been Enlightened**
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-27-2014, 12:48 AM
dw1911's Avatar
dw1911 dw1911 is offline
Founding Member
COTEP Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Rural Southwest Virginia
Posts: 2,351
Thanks: 618
Thanked 1,547 Times in 465 Posts
Default Likely

Loose Optics, happened to Me before, thing is, they don't have to be very loose.
Just a fraction at the scope can equate to inches at the target.
__________________
1911 Pistols can be additive!
COTEP CBOB0586
No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” Thomas Jefferson
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-27-2014, 08:58 AM
brownie's Avatar
brownie brownie is offline
COTEP Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 912
Thanks: 34
Thanked 203 Times in 54 Posts
Default

Loose mounts or the loads, if nothing else changed.
__________________
Quick Kill Pistol

https://www.youtube.com/user/azqkr

"The mind is the limiting factor"
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-27-2014, 12:57 PM
titanse05's Avatar
titanse05 titanse05 is offline
Founding Member
COTEP Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Near Somerset, PA
Posts: 734
Thanks: 26
Thanked 31 Times in 7 Posts
Default

You need to ditch the junk optic and then try to zero.

My shooting buddy made the ncstar mistake when we were sighting in his AR a couple years ago before I bought my first AR and we could get it sighted in, but it would not be consistent.

A good cheap scope that seems to hold zero are the CenterPoint scopes available at Walmart. That same friend purchased a 4-16x with a 1" tube and has had good luck with it. I have a CenterPoint 3-12x with a 30mm tube that I got from Dick's that has since been discontinued, but has been a excellent scope for the $130 invested. I use it strictly for paper punching but would trust it for more serious use.

All this being said, both of my ARs run Aimpoints.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
__________________
CBOB0235
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-27-2014, 01:55 PM
Pawpaw's Avatar
Pawpaw Pawpaw is offline
Founding Member
COTEP Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: North Texas
Posts: 243
Thanks: 85
Thanked 19 Times in 4 Posts
Default

I agree with everyone else, it's almost certainly a scope issue. My 1:7 twist pencil barrel Colt doesn't like any 55 grain ammo I tried, but it would at least hit the paper.

Don't overlook Redfield scopes. They're owned and operated by Leupold these days and are very good value-priced scopes.

I use this mount on my 10/22 Takedown, but it's really made for the AR platform.
__________________
COTEP# CBOB0569

Last edited by Pawpaw; 08-27-2014 at 01:58 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.