Gun rights should cross state lines

[pony up]

I also mistrust the Feds however in my case, outlined above, the Feds say I can transport from one residence to the other encased and locked in the rear as long as I have a CC permit in both states and are traveling directly from one to the other. State laws such as MA for example (a may issue state) possession without a State permit (only issued to residents who can prove need) is an automatic one year in the slammer. That is, ironically, in violation of the Constitution in the cradle of liberty. I satisfy the Federal laws but am in violation of the laws of several states by transporting a gun I am legally permitted to purchase. The libtards in the northeast are never going to allow freedom to practice my Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Not ever.

[milkmanjoe]

Originally Posted by pony up

I also mistrust the Feds however in my case, outlined above, the Feds say I can transport from one residence to the other encased and locked in the rear as long as I have a CC permit in both states and are traveling directly from one to the other. State laws such as MA for example (a may issue state) possession without a State permit (only issued to residents who can prove need) is an automatic one year in the slammer. That is, ironically, in violation of the Constitution in the cradle of liberty. I satisfy the Federal laws but am in violation of the laws of several states by transporting a gun I am legally permitted to purchase. The libtards in the northeast are never going to allow freedom to practice my Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Not ever.

I'm not so sure about that....Chicago and Washington DC have been pushed into concealed carry. Sure, they are still making it tough, but it exists, and crime rates are dropping. It will spread if Gun Rights groups are kept funded and keep filing lawsuits. Won't be soon, but it'll happen. Obama tried his damnest to screw gun owners and place restrictions on firearms...he got nowhere. A few states increased their gun control laws, which will be overturned through lawsuits. Gonna take time, but citizen carry is gaining ground all over.

[Snipersnest]

Originally Posted by pony up

State laws such as MA for example (a may issue state) possession without a State permit (only issued to residents who can prove need) is an automatic one year in the slammer.

You don't have to prove a need to be issued an LTC in Mass. You're required to take and pass a course in order to apply for one, and out of staters can apply for a non-resident license as well. As long as you're licensed in your home state and are participating in a sanctioned shoot, or traveling through you don't need a Mass. license. The one year mandatory (which was not supposed to be plea bargained away) has never been utilized in the courts I was involved with, and for some strange reason all those signs at the borders of Mass. declaring a one year mandatory have been removed. So there!

[TLE2]

OK, I have a Texas and Oklahoma permit. Which other permit should I get to make it 50 states, less the commie states, of course.

[Snipersnest]

You could get the Utah license which is recognized by 32 states if that'll help.

[milkmanjoe]

Originally Posted by TLE2

OK, I have a Texas and Oklahoma permit. Which other permit should I get to make it 50 states, less the commie states, of course.

You'll never get fifty states...the northeast is out for the most part, probly California too unless very limited.

[sdmc530]

and I have all 50 states, its called the LEO exemption

[milkmanjoe]

Originally Posted by sdmc530

and I have all 50 states, its called the LEO exemption

Yaaaaahhhh, not so much.....on paper ya do.....Hawaii will not honor your badge, and good luck in NYC. I know of problems in those two states. For the record I think you guys should be totally exempt, but you would be surprised how many states won't give professional consideration. I know of the two I mentioned for sure....have heard of a recent rift between South Carolina and Florida. Am sure there are others, not worth digging up. The South Carolina/Florida rift originates from LEO's speeding on the I-95 corridor. The Hawaii problem was from LEO's from Hawaii being on the mainland and not receiving professional consideration, so they stopped giving consideration, on Oahu anyway. Times are changing in Hawaii, women that have been raped are filing lawsuits for concealed carry, but the old guard is fighting them. Once the new guard completely takes over it will change quickly. I lived there, have family there, so I keep up on Hawaii.

[BlackKnight]

I've been to NYC as it's across the river for me and they always extend curtesy to me and many of LEO's especially if you go to sporting events.
While I've neem to Hawaii twice I've yet to take my gun there.
There's a difference between professionally curtesy and giving you a hard time about carrying. Many southern states do not give professionally curtesy to their own let alone to our northern brothers, but the issue of carrying has never been an issue.

[pony up]

Originally Posted by Snipersnest

You don't have to prove a need to be issued an LTC in Mass. You're required to take and pass a course in order to apply for one, and out of staters can apply for a non-resident license as well. As long as you're licensed in your home state and are participating in a sanctioned shoot, or traveling through you don't need a Mass. license. The one year mandatory (which was not supposed to be plea bargained away) has never been utilized in the courts I was involved with, and for some strange reason all those signs at the borders of Mass. declaring a one year mandatory have been removed. So there!

Good to hear and I hope you are correct and they are indeed changing. I am not trying to start an internet pissing contest just saying that for my needs the Feds are, at this point, where I need to be while some states are not. I believe it should be a state licensing issue but while there are some states that would prefer to be protection free zones there is a lot of work for interested citizens to do, Mass. among them.