Sheriff's FATS simulator

[edgehill]

That sounds like a good training.

[guitargain]

That is very interesting. Thanks.

[milkmanjoe]

Great post, Franklin...Jeez, I remember your range when it was a cavern of a room with a pile of steel in it waiting to be assembled. Now you are in advanced training! I'm up for any type of training with firearms, need to make a trip to Jax and have some fun at your sandbox!

[Franklin]

Originally Posted by milkmanjoe

Great post, Franklin...Jeez, I remember your range when it was a cavern of a room with a pile of steel in it waiting to be assembled. Now you are in advanced training! I'm up for any type of training with firearms, need to make a trip to Jax and have some fun at your sandbox!

Joe
You are always welcome and I will always be glad to see you.

[sstpierre]

Originally Posted by milkmanjoe

Great post, Franklin...Jeez, I remember your range when it was a cavern of a room with a pile of steel in it waiting to be assembled. Now you are in advanced training! I'm up for any type of training with firearms, need to make a trip to Jax and have some fun at your sandbox!

I agree, awesome post, and I too need to take the trip to see you Franklin, and your fine facility! Looking forward to trying to put some time aside and make it happen!

[Razorwire]

I am a (retired) FATS instructor. Attended both levels of instruction at their facility in Atlanta back around 1998. FATS is extremely challenging. We spent big bucks for our system as we had the tethered weapons (Glock, Bushmaster) and OC spray and flashlight. I am sure the system has improved since those days. We also had specific senarios developed which did not come cheap. We also had our own home made FATS we could take to the range (thanks to John Reknor-NRA LE Instructor er) using a slide projector and large sheets of target paper..not as realistic, but damn good training, shooting duty weapons.

[MPDC]

Very interesting, Franklin. Amazing how outcomes differ by mindset. Reminds us how fallible we are. Like my sig line says, "Good to know what you don't know".

I can think of several instances where shooting would or could have been ruled "Justified", yet I didn't and was never shot nor was an innocent shot. I think an Officer has more of an obligation to try to diffuse than a Citizen but OTOH, would never want my son taking that kind of chance. Being young sometimes finds us feeling immortal, foolishly.

Also, in my day (Stone Age), criminals weren't as heavily armed, usually and the lack of respect and fear of the badge wasn't as prevalent. Today, I think, it is more dangerous and requires more SA than back then. Good on ya for making us think!

[milkmanjoe]

Originally Posted by MPDC

Very interesting, Franklin. Amazing how outcomes differ by mindset. Reminds us how fallible we are. Like my sig line says, "Good to know what you don't know".

I can think of several instances where shooting would or could have been ruled "Justified", yet I didn't and was never shot nor was an innocent shot. I think an Officer has more of an obligation to try to diffuse than a Citizen but OTOH, would never want my son taking that kind of chance. Being young sometimes finds us feeling immortal, foolishly.

Also, in my day (Stone Age), criminals weren't as heavily armed, usually and the lack of respect and fear of the badge wasn't as prevalent. Today, I think, it is more dangerous and requires more SA than back then. Good on ya for making us think!

I bet most of us can remember when LEO's carried .38 revos, and felt safe. The world has surely changed. One thing I am watching here on COTEP is the infusion of different training with firearms. To think back, when I wasn't a member, that maybe owning/shooting a DW 1911 was prominent. Might come around to owning and training(self/family defense) with that fine DW 1911. Most of my 1911's are rustbucket Springfields, but they all run flawlessly, which is what I am after for training/self defense. Question is...am I good enough?

[Shadow]

Originally Posted by milkmanjoe

I bet most of us can remember when LEO's carried .38 revos, and felt safe. The world has surely changed. One thing I am watching here on COTEP is the infusion of different training with firearms. To think back, when I wasn't a member, that maybe owning/shooting a DW 1911 was prominent. Might come around to owning and training(self/family defense) with that fine DW 1911. Most of my 1911's are rustbucket Springfields, but they all run flawlessly, which is what I am after for training/self defense. Question is...am I good enough?

Hey Joe, how 'bout I just head on over and take that rusty black stainless off your hands?

[milkmanjoe]

Originally Posted by Shadow

Hey Joe, how 'bout I just head on over and take that rusty black stainless off your hands?

hehehe...that's in the part of my collection that ain't rustbuckets...