DW CCO: nosedives

[masakari]

Originally Posted by Grouse

factory or reloads?

How old are the mags?

How many rounds through them?

Does it noes dive when you release the slide using your hand not the slide release?

factory ammo
the mags are as old as the pistol, and are always loaded. they are only used in this pistol.
it only nosedives (so far) when using the slide release.
if the springs in these mags are already worn out, then maybe I should switch mags!
and I see you understand my name haha

[Grouse]

What is happening then is the slide release is letting the slide go to slow. Some how the slide release is binding against something as you use it. Typically slide releases cause wear on the slide. Many people avoid this by releasing the slide with your hand not the release. There will be those that shout "You should be releasing the slide with your hand not the slide release." Put the original back in and see if it still binds. Are there any other swapped out parts?

[masakari]

That is the only swapped out part, and unfortunately like an idiot i dont have the original. damn.
anyone have a source for one?

and I just checked the pistol, and there are copper marks on the frame right below the barrel where the rounds are hitting. so they are definitely nosediving pretty low.

[Grouse]

Rack the gun by releasing the slide with your hands and see if you have a failure.

What are you using for lube? How often are you cleaning? when was the last time it was lubed or cleaned?

[masakari]

Originally Posted by Grouse

Rack the gun by releasing the slide with your hands and see if you have a failure.

What are you using for lube? How often are you cleaning? when was the last time it was lubed or cleaned?

again, so far its only when I hit the slide release. but thats how I want to continue to reload, so I want to fix the problem instead of avoiding it. I have been kicking myself for swapping out the slide release for a while now, and that could be it. I wish DW would send me a new one... haha
but it is well lubed and cleaned now. always is.

[Grouse]

I would then find out where it is binding and clean it up a little.

email kieth at dan wesson or call them for a replacement.

[masakari]

Originally Posted by Grouse

I would then find out where it is binding and clean it up a little.

email kieth at dan wesson or call them for a replacement.

I honestly wouldn't know how to check for binding. Nothing is glaring at me, but it looks and feels normal.
whats Keith's email? I sent a message to [email protected] earlier, is that a good contact email? what about the phone number, is it 607-336-1174?
Thanks again for all of the help

[Riverpigusmc]

Springs wear from being cycled during use, not from compression from being loaded. Is this the only type ammo cauisng the failure? Are you using a shock buff? I'm with Aaron, sounds like the slide is moving too slow...how old and what weight is the recoil spring? That's where I'd look first...once your slide stop releases the slide, it's job is done unless it's binding

ETA: just saw you rpleaced the slide stop...unless you're lucky they seldom just drop in and need fitting...I'd check for binding like Aaron said, and check the recoil spring, as it can also cause a slow moving slide

[masakari]

Originally Posted by Riverpigusmc

Springs wear from being cycled during use, not from compression from being loaded. Is this the only type ammo cauisng the failure? Are you using a shock buff? I'm with Aaron, sounds like the slide is moving too slow...how old and what weight is the recoil spring? That's where I'd look first...once your slide stop releases the slide, it's job is done unless it's binding

exactly, thats why I dont think its the mags.
This is the only ammo that I have encountered failing thus far
Definitely not using a Shok Buff
The spring is as old as the pistol, 1 year and 800 rounds or so.
And I can agree, but I wouldnt know how to check for binding and such

note: while I agree that I should have never swapped the slide release, It has been in this pistol for pretty much all of the rounds shot through it, so being that the problem just started now, i'm still not completely convinced. I really hope that DW will send another though

[Riverpigusmc]

Wilson mags tend to "launch" the round into the chamber, not relying on the feedramp so much....the only two things I can suggest are

Try a new recoil spring just to try it

Use a Sharpie on the edge of your slide stop to see if something rubs it off.

If all else fails (and it may).....PM Dave Waits