Red Hen owner ...

[RKP]

Originally Posted by DrHenley

Backlash: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eat...s-chicken-poop

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[Gatorade]

I am actually very torn on this issue. I believe a business owner should have the right to decide who they do business with. Be it a wedding cake, a dinner at a restaurant, an art gallery or just a convience store around the corner. However I can see how that can lead to civil rights abuses and am reminded that we are not so far removed from whites and colored signs.

I guess right now I am leaning toward business owners refusing service if they decide to. However they need to realize actions have consequences, and their actions may cost them business and may even cost them their actual business. If they are so strong in their beliefs then they should have no problem taking the lumps that may come.

In my time as a store manager the only times I have ever run a customer off was when they were actually shoplifting from the stores. I may have made a couple people very uncomfortable during their stay in my store but thieves were always run off.

[flphotog]

Originally Posted by Gatorade

I am actually very torn on this issue. I believe a business owner should have the right to decide who they do business with. Be it a wedding cake, a dinner at a restaurant, an art gallery or just a convience store around the corner. However I can see how that can lead to civil rights abuses and am reminded that we are not so far removed from whites and colored signs.

I guess right now I am leaning toward business owners refusing service if they decide to. However they need to realize actions have consequences, and their actions may cost them business and may even cost them their actual business. If they are so strong in their beliefs then they should have no problem taking the lumps that may come.

In my time as a store manager the only times I have ever run a customer off was when they were actually shoplifting from the stores. I may have made a couple people very uncomfortable during their stay in my store but thieves were always run off.

Sorry but in this case I can't agree, no business owner/manager has the right to kick someone out because of their political beliefs or simply because they work for a President that they don't like, that is just wrong.

[Gatorade]

Originally Posted by flphotog

Sorry but in this case I can't agree, no business owner/manager has the right to kick someone out because of their political beliefs or simply because they work for a President that they don't like, that is just wrong.

So should a baker be forced to make a same sex wedding cake if they don’t agree with same sex marriage? Seems very parallel to me.

[DrHenley]

Originally Posted by Gatorade

So should a baker be forced to make a same sex wedding cake if they don’t agree with same sex marriage? Seems very parallel to me.

Not at all the same. In making the cake for a gay wedding they are actively participating in an activity that is contrary to their religious beliefs.

But a restaurant serving food to someone is simply allowing that person to eat. It is in no way endorsing or participating in any activity that is contrary to their beliefs...unless they believe that people they disagree with should starve to death.

[Gatorade]

Originally Posted by DrHenley

Not at all the same. In making the cake for a gay wedding they are actively participating in an activity that is contrary to their religious beliefs.

But a restaurant serving food to someone is simply allowing that person to eat. It is in no way endorsing or participating in any activity that is contrary to their beliefs...unless they believe that people they disagree with should starve to death.

Well some people do believe that the current administration is actively contrary to their beliefs as well. They consider travel bans an attack on religion, and conservative Supreme Court appointees to be a threat to every liberal case brought before the court. I believe I heard The Red Hen had some LGBTQ employees who felt directly attacked by this administration on a number of fronts.

Also saying the Sanders party will starve to death is a bit of exaduration. I am sure they were properly fed at another restaurant that was grateful for their business.

[DrHenley]

Originally Posted by Gatorade

Also saying the Sanders party will starve to death is a bit of exaduration. I am sure they were properly fed at another restaurant that was grateful for their business.

No clue what an "exaduration" is so I can't really say whether it is or isn't. But let me put this in terms maybe you can grasp.

The Baker's religion forbad same sex people from getting married. Baking a wedding cake for a same sex marriage was participating in the marriage of same sex people. I'm sure they would have no problem just baking a regular cake for anyone of any persuasion.

For the restaurant case to be the same, the restaurant owner would have to belong to a religion that taught that it was somehow immoral for members of the Trump Administration to eat (starvation is the result of not eating), and so selling food to a member of the Trump Administration was participating in an immoral activity.

If the baker had to refused to sell an ordinary cake to gay people, or the restaurant had refused to cater to a Republican event, then there could be a case for saying they were parallel (but still not the same since one involved religious beliefs and the other simply involved irrational political hatred.)

[wxl]

Originally Posted by Gatorade

Well some people do believe that the current administration is actively contrary to their beliefs as well. They consider travel bans an attack on religion, and conservative Supreme Court appointees to be a threat to every liberal case brought before the court. I believe I heard The Red Hen had some LGBTQ employees who felt directly attacked by this administration on a number of fronts.

Also saying the Sanders party will starve to death is a bit of exaduration. I am sure they were properly fed at another restaurant that was grateful for their business.

Actually they went across the street where Red Hen followers followed and harassed them there.

[dw1911]

She was Forced to resign !
"After kicking White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders out of her restaurant, Stephanie Wilkinson, has been forced to step down as Executive Director Main Street Lexington organization. Wilkinson is a co-owner of the Red Hen restaurant, and up until she kicked out Sanders, was well-respected in her community.

Her resignation came over email from the President of her local board who stated: “Considering the events of the past weekend, Stephanie felt it best that for the continued success of Main Street
Lexington, she should step aside.”
https://westvirginia.forums.rivals.c...zation.176404/

[RKP]

Originally Posted by Gatorade

...... they need to realize actions have consequences, and their actions may cost them business and may even cost them their actual business. If they are so strong in their beliefs then they should have no problem taking the lumps that may come ......

PERFECT !!