New Pistols

[Caleb]

Smith never made a "compact " model in their line up. The one they called "compact" is actually a "Sub-compact ". I guess they figured they would compete against everyone that makes a true compact model like the G19, CZ P10C, Springfield XD, and a few others in this category. They actually went straight for the G19's throat. Side by side, these two are exactly the same dimensions. When I heard and saw this, I couldn't get my wallet out fast enough. I've always wanted a G19 sized (and capacity) carry pistol but, didn't want a G19. I knew with Smith's ergos, reliable history, and let's be honest....good looks, I had to have it. 15+ 1 plus I can carry and use a full size spare mag (17 rounds) if I wanted, what's not to like. All I need now is to throw some lead down range and order a new holster, and this bad boy will reside on my hip.

[Riverpigusmc]

So that's what caused all the static last night

[pitor]

Great looking pistols Pirate. The reason why I didn't buy the M&P Compact model ( bought my Sig P320) I thought it was too short compared to the Glock 19. If the new compact is more like a g19 in size and capacity then I might need to get me a new pistol. Just saying.

[NAMVET72]

My question what is so Freaking wonderful about a Tupperware gun besides they weigh less?

[Caleb]

Originally Posted by NAMVET72

My question what is so Freaking wonderful about a Tupperware gun besides they way less?

1- Reliability
2- Less weight
3- compactness
4- rust resistance (in my case)
5- cocked and unlocked

Just to name a few. I tried carrying the 1911s, full, mid, and CCO. Aluminum and steal. Are they comfortable? Yes. But, at the end of the day my back hurt a bit. Also, running locked and cocked I would notice the thumb safety would become disengaged sometime during the day. Not a huge deal but, it made me uncomfortable. Another note: I know it's a matter of training but, during dry fire training I noticed I would forget to disengage the thumb safety. My #1 reason I went with the striker fired plastic pistols is that I want more "in gun" capacity. I don't carry a spare mag most of the time (bad habit) and 6-7 rounds in today's crazy world is not enough. My Sheild holds 8+1 and it's smaller and lighter than my 1911s. Still, I want more capacity so I bought the new Compact that holds 15+1 with the ability to run the 17 round full size mags. If I carry the spare mag that will give me 33 rounds on my person.

Don't get me wrong, I still love the 1911s. Still my favorite pistols of all time.

[BlackKnight]

Originally Posted by Caleb

1- Reliability
2- Less weight
3- compactness
4- rust resistance (in my case)
5- cocked and unlocked

Just to name a few. I tried carrying the 1911s, full, mid, and CCO. Aluminum and steal. Are they comfortable? Yes. But, at the end of the day my back hurt a bit. Also, running locked and cocked I would notice the thumb safety would become disengaged sometime during the day. Not a huge deal but, it made me uncomfortable. Another note: I know it's a matter of training but, during dry fire training I noticed I would forget to disengage the thumb safety. My #1 reason I went with the striker fired plastic pistols is that I want more "in gun" capacity. I don't carry a spare mag most of the time (bad habit) and 6-7 rounds in today's crazy world is not enough. My Sheild holds 8+1 and it's smaller and lighter than my 1911s. Still, I want more capacity so I bought the new Compact that holds 15+1 with the ability to run the 17 round full size mags. If I carry the spare mag that will give me 33 rounds on my person.

Don't get me wrong, I still love the 1911s. Still my favorite pistols of all time.

I concur. Also, while I love my Glocks, it won’t hurt as much when taken away from me in the event I may be involved in a shooting.
As I said before I equate my Glocks as my everyday pickup, durable, dependable, and I won’t care if I beat the crap out of them. My 1911’s, on the other hand, are my high end sports cars. Same with my Garands. Love them, but I’ll take my AR into battle.
Polymer firearms, love them or hate them, are the future. They’re here to stay.

[Caleb]

Originally Posted by BlackKnight

I concur. Also, while I love my Glocks, it won’t hurt as much when taken away from me in the event I may be involved in a shooting.
As I said before I equate my Glocks as my everyday pickup, durable, dependable, and I won’t care if I beat the crap out of them. My 1911’s, on the other hand, are my high end sports cars. Same with my Garands. Love them, but I’ll take my AR into battle.
Polymer firearms, love them or hate them, are the future. They’re here to stay.

Ah yes! A very good reason. I won't care if my poly gun gets taken and beat up or not returned for some reason. Now, I might cry if they take my 1911 away.

[NAMVET72]

Really Sweet but I bet you sleep outside in the Dog House for along time,

[BlackKnight]

All I know is that and S&W are exactly alike. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

[Gatorade]

I may be wrong but I think one of the requirements for the Army MHS contract was the ability to use the same frame for compact as well as full size. Also my M&P 40C has a "C" after the caliber to denote compact. The new compact dropped the "C" and just has a shorter slide. I always thought the idea for a compact was a shorter grip. To make it easier to conceal. The slide length actually doesn't matter that much for concealment unless you are using a shoulder holster. I guess we will need to wait and see if a 2.0 Sub-compact comes out.