Anyone familiar ......

[Horse'nround]

I have a good friend at that lost his house to fire about 6 months ago. 2 story the gun safe on the ground floor a cannon I think rated at 1200 degrees for 75 minutes house was charcoal in less than 45. The key pad was gone when they finally got it pried open what they found was really depressing. The guns were there but nothing usable or salvageable, charred beyond belief. To make matters worse the insurance company is giving them nothing but grief. My suggestion buy for dirtbag resistance. The fire game is a crap shoot at best.

[RKP]

Originally Posted by Horse'nround

...... My suggestion buy for dirtbag resistance. The fire game is a crap shoot at best.

I have some friends who are firemen, one being a Captain and they've all pretty much said the same thing. They've seen the same outcome you mention the vast majority of the time when gun safes are involved, and you can only imagine the outcome when ammo, powder and primers are stored in the same safe.

[Riverpigusmc]

Never store powder in a safe. When it burns the pressure turns your safe into a large bomb

[RKP]

Originally Posted by Riverpigusmc

Never store powder in a safe. When it burns the pressure turns your safe into a large bomb

No Sir, but from the stories I've been told from these firemen a lot of people do so.

[BeerHunter]

Originally Posted by Horse'nround

I have a good friend at that lost his house to fire about 6 months ago. 2 story the gun safe on the ground floor a cannon I think rated at 1200 degrees for 75 minutes house was charcoal in less than 45. The key pad was gone when they finally got it pried open what they found was really depressing. The guns were there but nothing usable or salvageable, charred beyond belief. To make matters worse the insurance company is giving them nothing but grief. My suggestion buy for dirtbag resistance. The fire game is a crap shoot at best.

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This! My fireman friends tell me the fire rating is BS marketing. Buy a safe to secure items from dirtbag thieves. Personally agree with old fashioned dial instead of digital/biotech locks.

[AFJuvat]

As others have said.

Fire ratings are not to be relied upon. Nost safes use gypsum (sheetrock). When it gets hot, it undergoes a chemical transformation to release steam.

Concrete is a slightly better insulator, but not by much.

Keeping your safe against an outside wall will help keep temperatures down.

Never store powder or ammo in a safe. That is a bomb waiting to happen.

[sdmc530]

also keep the primers out of a safe too then.....