U.S.M.C. no longer teaching the fundamentals?
 

I just recently saw a picture that concerned me. Marine Corps recruits during rifle portion of boot camp learning to use reflex sights as opposed to iron sights. Have they gotten away from teaching the fundamentals of iron sights? Anyone know?
If you have Facebook, here are the pictures.
https://www.facebook.com/ParrisIslan...type=3&theater

I'll be there March 15th, will get the latest.

Sigh. Girls, then queers, then Glocks, now this.

I quit

My guess would be that they've already trained on irons. I doubt the sky is falling ;)

I've had young Marines at my SC house who couldn't zero irons at 25 yards. Optics could just be the way to get them on target without all the training.
See dot, put dot on target, pull trigger. If dot is broke center target in optic and pull trigger. In all honesty most of them will never utilize a firearm.

Maybe. I've thought of this as well, but boot camp is finite. It is still 13 weeks. So, if this is what's happening then the fundamentals are still being shortchanged.

Acog
 

I was speaking with a Marine PMI from Parris Island at my Marine Corps League meeting. Marines have not trained with open sights since 2011. I was floored. There are units being sent to Afghanistan that aren't even issued BUIS........They are killing us.

http://archive.marinecorpstimes.com/...rifle-training

Greaaat...
So that begs the question, what happens if the scope fails? :mad:

The rifle range Quonset huts were the first taste of some freedom after about 8 weeks, as I recall, of hell week, non stop. Also the first time for one on one coaching with the exception of our DI comprehensively kicking my ass all over PI while demonstrating to the rest of the Gen. A A Vandergrift Platoon how to win a Pugil stick/bayonet fight...about 5 separate times. I think he liked me. :) He always went out of his way to prove he had no favorites. I did a little better each time. The last time I either put him down or he took a dive. He put his arm around my shoulders and told me I just might make a Marine after all. Gunny Floyd was a good man and a hell of a DI. Oh, we sure never had weapons like that and most certainly did not have starched and ironed utilities. Check out the covers. :D That is NOT wash rack stuff. PI have house boys now?

Or if you have a damaged rifle and have to pick up an enemy combatants rifle.