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skosh69 08-09-2012 09:40 PM

S&W M&P Shield 9mm
 
Well, I picked it up from jail yesterday after thee longest 10 days I've ever spent and ran to the range this morning.

This gun is amazing, it feels natural in your hands and it shoots like a charm!
Trigger pull feels alot lighter than the what is posted on the spec sheet at S&W's website!

Put 200 rds of Sellior and Bellot, 115gn RN through it with only a handful of hiccups (FTF's and 2 stove pipes) that I attribute to the magazines. I've never seen a magazine with such strong springs before. It was literally harder to load the bullets into the mags than it's ever been on any my 1911 mags.

The best part.....NO, I repeat NO "loaded chamber indicator" rooster comb on top of the slide. Don't ask me how I managed to get this model as I'm not a LEO and I did not SSE this gun.

Here are some pics of the Shield and of my handiwork. As you can see as the day progressed and the greater the distance, my groupings started to diminish. That's o.k., I don't plan on using the Shield as a home defense weapon and there are no 15 yd straight line of sights in my house anyway....nuk, nuk, nuk!


http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/...1/IMG_0628.jpg
http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/...1/IMG_0625.jpg
http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/...1/IMG_0616.jpg
http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/...1/IMG_0615.jpg
http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/...IMG_0613-1.jpg
http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/...1/IMG_0612.jpg

NAMVET72 08-09-2012 09:49 PM

TThanks Ellison, for the pics and Range Report. I now see who taught you how to shoot, she shoots 110% better then you do...........:D:D:D:D


Clyde

Deleted 08-09-2012 09:57 PM

Glad you finally freed it from Jail Buddy.

That is a nice looking gun....At first my M&P mags were hard to load(springs) last few rounds was like trying to wrestle a "TWINKIE" from a fat girl.

Glad I steered you to the M&P line...That's right for you Smoke'rs out there I'm the one who talked him into getting a TUPPERWARE gun.:D

Nice shooting Ellison.

sdmc530 08-09-2012 09:58 PM

NICE....I have been eying a 9mm myself but have to wait for my LGS to actually get some it. I am on the list so we will see.

Nice shooting too....

Feathermerchant 08-09-2012 10:25 PM

Very nice Ellison!!

Thedragonslayer 08-09-2012 10:34 PM

Brudder very cool post! Thanks for sharing.



Stempy

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alvinSF49 08-09-2012 11:27 PM

9mm pistols are so much fun! Nice shooting Ell!

Hoss in IL 08-09-2012 11:40 PM

Nice ellison. Now, let your bride shoot HER pistol!!

skosh69 08-10-2012 02:03 AM

Thanks everyone for the positive comments and support. And yes Ed, you were the defining influence in my purchase...thanks again brother!

UPDATE: I think I might've found the feeding issue. While cleaning the gun, I kept running through my head what other possibilities could lead to the my FTF's and stove pipes other than not breaking in the mags properly? I was told today that you should take new mags and load them and let them sit for a week or two to break them in.....never heard that before but I'm willing to try it!

So I decided to look at the ammo to see if there was any differences between the two manufacturer's and sure enough...the S&B was longer, even to the naked eye....so I got out the micrometer to measure the COAL of the Sellier and Bellot rounds vs the Remington UMC rounds vs what the Speer #14 reloading manual says and this is what I found...

S&B = 1.158"

Remy UMC = 1.124"

Speer Manual = 1.135"

I'm no Einstein, but .034" is huge..see pic

http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/...1/IMG_0632.jpg

So that's telling me that the S&B's are too long and more than likely the cause for the issues.

I've got both mag's fully loaded to compress the springs and will take the Shield back out next week and run only Remy through it and see if the problems persist.

Roverron 08-10-2012 05:46 AM

I agree buddie. Very nice gun and nice shooting!

DaFadda 08-10-2012 06:01 AM

"I'm no Einstein, but .034" is huge..see pic
So that's telling me that the S&B's are too long and more than likely the cause for the issues."

HMMMMM....... I'm not sure I'm buying this Ellison. First you buy a plastic tupperware gun, then you experience FTF's? I'm thinking just holding plastic caused you to limp wrist the pistol. Don't know fer positive... but do you get FTF's from your REAL guns??????

ROFLMBO! loveyaman!

DaFadda

skosh69 08-10-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFadda (Post 31528)
"I'm no Einstein, but .034" is huge..see pic
So that's telling me that the S&B's are too long and more than likely the cause for the issues."

HMMMMM....... I'm not sure I'm buying this Ellison. First you buy a plastic tupperware gun, then you experience FTF's? I'm thinking just holding plastic caused you to limp wrist the pistol. Don't know fer positive... but do you get FTF's from your REAL guns??????

ROFLMBO! loveyaman!

DaFadda

:facepalm2: hahaha....love you too brother!

AutoMag 08-10-2012 05:52 PM

Pretty neat Ellison!!!:)

Riverpigusmc 08-10-2012 09:43 PM

Stovepipes are probably due to the nose of the round hitting the bottom of the barrel hood coz of the OAL on the SB..just my take, but what do I know? BTW, Ed, NO MORE converting folks to tupperware..you get a pass on Ellison, coz of the whole tofu' California thing, but that's it:mob:


HEY! I thought this was your WIFE'S gun. Remember, I gots your email and phone number..do I need to drop a dime on my 'pino brother? Mayhap I'll start a poll of the fambly

Mustang.Dude 08-10-2012 10:15 PM

Sharp little gun...nice shootin'.

DaFadda 08-11-2012 06:26 AM

On a more positive note... my nephew (Army SSgt who is coming home from Afghanistan this month) is going to be getting one just like this with his unit engraving. Seems the entire unit voted to order these pistols. And I KNOW he doesn't limp wrist! So, plastic or otherwise.... it's got a Good HouseClearing stamp of approval.

DaFadda

skosh69 08-11-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFadda (Post 31615)
On a more positive note... my nephew (Army SSgt who is coming home from Afghanistan this month) is going to be getting one just like this with his unit engraving. Seems the entire unit voted to order these pistols. DaFadda

That's awesome to hear...please tell your nephew thank you for his service!

Sheepdog 08-23-2012 08:00 PM

Nice shooting Ell!!!!:eek:

Riverpigusmc 08-23-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheepdog (Post 32494)
Nice shooting Ell!!!!:eek:

Yeah, but has his wife got to shoot "her" gun yet? Enquiring minds (and nibsh*ts) wanna know :D

AutoMag 08-23-2012 08:21 PM

I think Ellison is letting her do the reloading now also!!!!!:D:D

skosh69 08-23-2012 11:06 PM

ok, ok...we might go to the range this weekend, her shoulder has been bugging her! Ya, that's it...her shoulder.....hahahaha

AutoMag 08-24-2012 07:35 AM

Yea, right Ellison!!!!!!!:D:D

skosh69 08-25-2012 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutoMag (Post 32529)
Yea, right Ellison!!!!!!!:D:D

Next Weds, the 29th, our wedding anniversary. We'll drop the kids off at school and then head out for breakfast and then some range time, with HER new pistol!!

AutoMag 08-25-2012 11:00 AM

In case I forget.........Happy Anniversary Ellison and Mrs. Ellison!!!!:D

My wife and I celebrate our 40th anniversary on September 9th!!! Been together the whole time........well except when work took me far far away at times!!!

Riverpigusmc 08-25-2012 11:02 AM

Happy anniversary, brother, hope y'all have a bunch more

Deleted 08-25-2012 01:40 PM

Yeah Happy Anniversary brother.

Your Wife has to be a "SAINT" to put up with you!!!

Jdl2 08-25-2012 11:39 PM

Happy anniversary Eli. Hope you and M have many more.
Best regards,
Jim

skosh69 08-26-2012 12:19 PM

Thanks guys, you're the best!


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