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Riverpigusmc 11-24-2019 07:57 AM

May be worth a look
 
https://youtu.be/xkTSwMfnv8Q

sdmc530 11-24-2019 10:34 AM

Just my thoughts on this:

First, reloading solves a lot of these issues. You can make any round if you reload to a speed/power factor you like if the projectile can take the speed. Some have a rated max speed and should be respected. IE Most plated say no more than 1250fps in a .45acp. that is a pretty good clip for .45 IMO.

Second, cost. Buying vs. reloading comes down to cost. I know its time consuming and can be a very large up front cost but if you enjoy it that is worth the time. It what you like to do. Nothing wrong either way.

Third, I don't spend much money on self defense branded marketed ammo/projectiles. Well I don't think the bad guy cares what is getting fired in his direction, they all are going to make a hole. I know the advantages with expanding rounds and all that tech, yep its good. But a FMJ is going to hurt and a bad guy isn't going to say, man I am glad that round was FMJ instead of a hollow point, that won't be nearly as painful or deadly. The only self defense ammo I actually buy, the higher dollar stuff is for the .380. Because that is what Lisa is going to grab if she had to dispatch a bad guy. But anything I carry is just standard FMJ rounds.


I load them a bit hotter but then I can make my own so that is a huge advantage.

I wish he would have posted the numbers of the Winchester. they are slower than the others but actually do pretty well. I know that video could have went on and on between different brands but he was testing "high end" ammo. Hornaday was a self defense and the other was a +p round. They both were designed for the same thing. I don't know what the other stuff costs, going to look in a second just out of curiosity.

Good video for sure, he is a bit corny at first....almost stopped watching because of that.

sdmc530 11-24-2019 10:41 AM

https://minutemanammo.com/

Website, you can brows and make your own opinion. They use a variety of projectiles. Montana gold, Hornady, all the big players in reloading. They don't have an in house projectile in appears.

Lonestar grips. 11-24-2019 12:00 PM

The yankee marshal is a moron so i didn't watch the vid but whatever it's about Phil's probably right.

Caleb 11-24-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonestar grips. (Post 169497)
The yankee marshal is a moron so i didn't watch the vid but whatever it's about Phil's probably right.



I agree, I unsubbed his channel years ago.


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sdmc530 11-24-2019 02:14 PM

I watched this video again, I feel like he's getting paid for this video by the ammo company. Maybe not though. Seems like a harmless guy but after I watched another video he is kind of a knuckle head funny

DrHenley 11-24-2019 05:51 PM

Terminal Ballistics?
Standard Deviation?
Accuracy?
Reliability?

Riverpigusmc 11-24-2019 06:56 PM

All I know is a guy at work buys the ammo at good prices and says he likes it and sent me the link. I didn't watch it as all I carry is low flash Wilson Custom or ASYM, which is basically the same, both loaded with VV and the Barnes bullet. Just passed it along

sdmc530 11-25-2019 12:33 AM

ASYM? Never heard of that brand. Looking now.

sdmc530 11-25-2019 12:41 AM

Ok the ammo looks fine but their line of 1911 for sale look pretty amazing. Prices were incredibly steep but they did look great. Even offer the lefty 1911. Didn’t see a 10mm though so boo on them.

BlackKnight 11-25-2019 11:08 AM

Finally got to watch the video.
First off, I’m a big proponent of hollow points for self defense. I’ve seen too many fmj’s over penetrate. The same with hp’s but more so with the former.

Here’s the rub. In this state once a law enforcement retires they can no longer carry hollow points. Must be fmj’s.
Why the Critical Defense has been very popular. Due to their design the state has deemed them equivalent to fmj’s.

So for me, fmj’s for training and Critical Defense for SD.


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sdmc530 11-25-2019 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackKnight (Post 169511)
Finally got to watch the video.
First off, I’m a big proponent of hollow points for self defense. I’ve seen too many fmj’s over penetrate. The same with hp’s but more so with the former.

Here’s the rub. In this state once a law enforcement retires they can no longer carry hollow points. Must be fmj’s.
Why the Critical Defense has been very popular. Due to their design the state has deemed them equivalent to fmj’s.

So for me, fmj’s for training and Critical Defense for SD.


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No doubt Tony,
my only concern is what kind of messed up law is that?!?!

BlackKnight 11-25-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 169512)
No doubt Tony,
my only concern is what kind of messed up law is that?!?!

A really messed up and idiotic one! :mad:


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