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BlackKnight 10-14-2015 08:33 AM

Help me identify a round.
 
If you fine people can help me identify a round. The following pictures were sent to me by a friend asking to identify a particular round.
The first picture is a comparison with a .223 and a .30-06.
The second picture is of the primer, which as you can see, is deeply recessed.
Thanks.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...pshnrgwnil.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ps7ftnldcc.jpg

sdmc530 10-14-2015 08:52 AM

no clue but I want to shoot it!

DrHenley 10-14-2015 01:15 PM

My guess is that it was used in a rifle with a tubular magazine. Hence the recessed primer - to avoid setting off rounds in the magazine by the pointy bullet.

What rifle, I have no idea. Need to know caliber and length of case at least. Base diameter and rim diameter would help.


http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...pictureid=1046

Caleb 10-14-2015 02:06 PM

Never seen that one before. Sorry, can't help you out on this one.

Looks like a really old round, pig will know (it's from his time). :p

PS: I posted your question on two military surplus forums I belong to. Maybe, they will know.

BlackKnight 10-14-2015 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamCaleb (Post 120016)
PS: I posted your question on two military surplus forums I belong to. Maybe, they will know.

Thank you.

skosh69 10-14-2015 06:29 PM

It's a BMF round. Big Mutha Fuq'ah :D

milkmanjoe 10-14-2015 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skosh69 (Post 120022)
It's a BMF round. Big Mutha Fuq'ah :D

LOL.....you r such a goober.... funny

Caleb 10-14-2015 07:35 PM

One person from another forum says..... "It looks a little like a 416 Rigby-ish, although that neck looks a little long". He requested measurements, including case, case neck, and projectile.

Caleb 10-14-2015 07:52 PM

Questions from another forum. ...
Quote:

Originally Posted by pkost (Post 1366383)
what type of rim is it? I can't tell from the picture. If rimless it looks a lot like a .416 Rigby. The primer hole seems odd.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRMorrison (Post 1366399)
If your friend has a pair of dial calipers handy, a few measurements would go a long way as well:

bullet diameter
OAL of cartridge
Case diameter near base
Base/rim diameter

-WRM


Snipersnest 10-15-2015 04:41 PM

I think it may be an anti-tank round. Possibly a Boys Rifle (English), or a DHSK (Dishka, Soviet), or a Hotchkiss anti-tank.

Xbonz 10-27-2015 09:51 PM

Looks like a 416 Rigby

http://www.gundigest.com/gun-collect...-little-screen

DrHenley 10-28-2015 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xbonz (Post 120955)
Looks like a 416 Rigby

It does, but...

The neck is too long and it appears to be rimmed.

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...pictureid=1046

DrHenley 10-28-2015 09:18 AM

I'm going to say it is an Ackley Improved version of the 450/400 Nitro Express 3 1/4".

Here is the 450/400 Nitro Express 3 1/4". Blow out the shoulder and you should have something dang close:

http://www.kynochammunition.co.uk/ca...0-400%20NE.jpg

http://www.cotep.org/forum/picture.p...pictureid=1046

DaFadda 10-28-2015 11:27 AM

Based on the material and shape of the projectile, which appears to be steel, I would lean towards this being an anti tank / anti aircraft round. Without a micrometer reading.... I'm guessing its a 20mm x 105b anti tank round. Picture below:

https://www.google.com/search?newwin...KQ-I5lzN0KM%3A

Second guess would be the Soviet 14.5mm round (similar to our beloved 50 cal)... but the shell profile isn't as close to the 20mm....

Let us know when you figure it out!

DaFadda

bttbbob 10-31-2015 05:51 PM

Looks to me like a .458 WinMag that went through the crimping die too far........Notice the neck has no shoulder, the crimping die was set too deep.


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